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Welcome to Breakpoint this week. I'm Shane Morris, and I'm here with John Stone Street to talk about the stories of the week from a Christian worldview perspective. Follow the stories we're talking about at

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and think like a Christian in today's culture. And John, I think it's kind of up in the air now after

the single vice presidential debate. Whether there will be any more presidential debates, they're kind of

wrangling over whether there's going to be an online debate or another in-person debate.

But if there is another in-person debate, I really hope that unexpected insects are involved

in this one as well, because you were tweeting about one that made an appearance in the

vice presidential debate. I did not

catch it. I went and watched the highlights afterwards. But everyone seemed to be talking about the fly.

The fly was the star of the debate. It was amazing. I think NPR had the best headline. They said

the fly causes unexpected buzz. Yeah, there was a lot of those really bad puns. Mine was the stage is bugged. You know, it was just really something. I did think that there was a real failure of the moderator not to pull out one of those really cool salt shooter. Fly killers. I always wanted one of those things. Oh, man, I just saw one the other day in one of the cool, like, farm stores here that I love. I love going in there and

pretending like I live and, you know, on a farm somewhere. And it had one. I almost bought it

and it was so cool. But I mean, wouldn't it be great if the moderator had pulled it out and just,

you know. Just blasted Mike Pence's hair and gotten rid of the fly. I tweeted something about it.

And Pastor J.D. Greer from Summit Church and Raleigh responded. You know, I couldn't concentrate, you know, for somebody else

was like, did you, you noticed it too? I'm like, noticed it. I literally could not see or hear anything

else when that fly was just stuck there for a really long time. Doesn't that say something about this year's political process, though?

The fact that we're so hungry for distraction that we'll jump after something so trivial

and stupid in the debate.

You know, this debate, John, I have to say, the comment I saw most often after the fly

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