The only way to score is, of course, to play with a handbreak-off.

Hello, this is the Arsenal podcast Handbrakeoff for The Athletic.

I'm Ian Stone and I'm joined by the athletic writers Amy Lawrence and James McNicholas

and by the Arsenal legend and the man who, after his last appearance on the pod,

can only be described as the doyen of defensive analysis.

Lee Dixon.

Hello, everyone.

Hello.

Hey, guys.

How are you? All right, thank you. Well, we Hello. Hey, guys. How are you?

All right, thank you.

Well, we're better now, aren't we?

Now, as you can imagine, Lee, after 45 minutes last night, frankly, I was a little scared

about how depressing this chat was going to be because at that point this was going to be a very

different podcast.

But a weird, magical thing happened in the second half and Arsenal fans

could smile again at least until 4.30 on a Sunday. So, Lee, what happened? Well, there's a great

quote, and I don't know if I can say it in full because there's a couple of swear words in there,

but there was a great quote from Ron Saunders, bless his cotton socks in a press conference about

winning a game and basically saying we were rubbish but they were a little bit more

rubbish than us so that was you can insert whatever word you want into that that phrase yeah

but yeah first off was you know it was same What I did like, though, and I'll say

...