Mm, picnic. What does one take to a picnic? Crisps, dips, sausage rolls. No, come on, think outside the box.

Mm, napkins? What are you, the mum? No, something a bit more exciting. Something like, I'll have those red scratch cards, please.

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From one ear to another, this is a Mag's creative production.

Music to another. This is a Mag's creative production. Ah, what a treat we have today. As today, I'm joined with the winner of Series 1 of Rupol's

Drag Race UK, the Vivian. Viv and I met on Celebrity Juice a couple of months back and today we bonded

over our shared love of all things podcasts. As a believer that you can learn a thing or two about

someone through their listening habits, we learn a lot about Viv today, including her passion

for Jurassic Park with the Jurassic Park podcast. Viv also celebrates the podcast from her drag

sisters like girl group gossip with Cheryl Hull and sibling rivalry with Bob the drag queen

and Monet Exchange. Along the way, we also have a good owl natter and hear about Viv's journey

in drag and how the last few years have treated her since she's flown into the spotlight.

So let's get started. Here's The Vivian on Castaway. The Vivian, welcome to Castaway.

Hello, Laura. How are you? I'm really good. How are you doing? Not too bad. We just mentioned off

recording that the last time we saw each other was that,

but the first time we actually met each other was at Celebrity.

So you mentioned that this is a bit more of a safe space.

Yeah, well, last time you were wearing like a body suit, wasn't it like a black body suit,

very Olivia Newton, John.

I was wearing something that wasn't appropriate for how pregnant I was and hiding it. And I have to tell you now, I'm in my slippers today. Oh, well, I'm sat here in full drag, sequins gowns to the floor. No, I'm not really. I'm so glad it didn't have to get in drag. In my head, in my head you are. I want to ask you, since I last saw you, which was also the first time we met, how have you been? How has 2021 treated you so far?

Do you know what? I'm good. I think every day is a new challenge and a new mental struggle. I think the first lockdown, I was quite happy that we had a

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