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It's Thursday. It's November 20th. We are one week away from Thanksgiving, and I do want to remind you, Andy Herman's takes on Thanksgiving food are terrible.

And I am not Jason Perron, as you would normally hear on Thursday show. Jason is off gallivanting the streets of Canada, I think. I don't remember where he told. Okay, that's where he's going. Vancouver, I believe. So he sent me here to chat with Mark Echall, who is here on your normal Thursday show. Mark, it's cold, it's rainy, and I put my motorcycle in storage today. So I am hurting. So tell me how beautiful it is down. Oh, God, you really don't want to

know that. It's like it's unseasonably warm here. It's almost, it's like 77 and sunny. And the rest of the

week's supposed to get even better. So it's funny because here in the, where are you? Rockford,

Illinois. So about three hours south of Green Bay. And the weather is supposed to turn. I was going to say how bad is it up Sunday? No, 54, 55 degrees. Yeah. So it's gone in the other direction. I kind of wanted them. I like a dome team coming outside to play in bad weather. Yeah, and McCarthy has a, well, we'll get into the JJ stuff of everything too but we got

Packers we got Vikings on Sunday real quick Mark here I wouldn't say you were like close with

the Giants or whatever but familiar enough with the Giants any final thoughts on that that Packers

Giants game 2720 it is a win which is something they hadn't had in about a month.

So I always used one.

My take on that was, like I said to you before we started recording, the team could

easily have been like 38 to 14 or 3810 or 38 something.

I mean, if the Packers just both sides of the ball, if they just caught the ball, the Packers had seven, by my count, seven dropped. Some people had five, six. I counted seven. That would have been, that would have led to more points. And defensively, they dropped four interceptions. One that would have, I think Bullards could have been to pick six or, it's hard to tell on TV because you don't see everything. But even if it wasn't, it would have been first in goal. If there was somebody back that could have got them. Ballantimes would have been in the red zone. Yeah, I mean, so it was just, you know, things happened, obviously.

But, I mean, they outplayed the Giants, I thought, for the most part. They just didn't catch the ball.

And there were some things that came out that are going to, like, you know, Luke Musgrave is not the answer at tight end that we hope that it might have been.

And we'll get into the defense.

What happened to the pass, Russ?

Yeah, that's my biggest concern coming out of the game is I actually wrote,

that was my story this week for Packers on ASI, which was coming into the season,

adding Parsons was supposed to be like this skeleton key that unlocked everything for the entire group. And now it's pretty much Micah and the funky bunch is what I've been calling it because Devante Wyatt doesn't have a sack since week two. He missed some time, obviously, with an injury. Rishon Gary's got questions about how many snaps he's playing, which we'll certainly get into. You've got Enigbar, I mean, the Packers, they just, they haven't hit the

quarterback if it's not Michael Parsons.

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