Hello, my name's David Rundsenman and this is Talking Politics.

Regular listeners will know that we have often spoken to Lucia Rubinelli about Italian politics.

Lucia is currently locked down in Northern Italy,

and we're going to be speaking to her again today.

This is also about Italian politics,

but it's about so much more than that.

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Lucia, hi. Do you want to start just by telling us where you are, literally where you are?

Yes, so I'm in a room, in a flat, in a little village called Pozzad de Fassa in the Italian Dolomites.

So, I mean, the mountains.

And the reason why I'm here is because my family is from Verona and they live in Verona,

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