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The Victorians Who Made Britain: Jacob Rees-Mogg vs Tristram Hunt

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4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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For Jacob Rees-Mogg the 19th century was a golden era. It was a time of moral certainty, of a global vision for Great Britain, and a confidence in the essential goodness of our great nation. And it is a period of history that offers us guidance as we collectively seek a way forward for Britain in these confusing times. In a new book Rees-Mogg celebrates twelve prominent figures from the Victorian era, including the statesmen Palmerston, Peel, Gladstone and Disraeli, two military leaders, Napier and Gordon, and of course Victoria herself and her consort Albert. Rees-Mogg salutes the Victorians’ drive and reforming zeal – to lower the cost of food, reform the prison system and abolish the slave trade. They bequeathed us a stable democracy, the rule of law and freedom of speech, which led to the stable and prosperous state we enjoy today, Rees-Mogg argues. There is much that we can emulate in the Victorians’ sense of duty and self-belief. While few would deny that the modern age owes a debt to the Victorians, many would argue that Rees-Mogg’s vision is a somewhat blinkered one, reflecting his own position as a Conservative MP on the right of the party and an ardent Brexiteer who believes in a post-Brexit global Britain. Joining Rees-Mogg on stage to challenge his views was Tristram Hunt, director of the V&A, former Labour MP and historian of the Victorian era. Rees-Mogg believes that if Britain can regain the self-confidence, moral certainty and outward-looking vision of the Victorians, we will thrive. But in the complex, interconnected world of the 21st century, is this vision of Britain not an outdated one? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to this week's Intelligence Square podcast.

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This week we have Jacob Rees Mog and Hello and welcome to this week's Intelligence Square podcast.

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This week we have Jacob Reese Mog and Tristram Hunt on the Victorians.

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Hannah was the producer of this event.

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Hannah, what happened?

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Well we had Jacob Rees Mog, who is a conservative MP and leading Brexiteer, and up against him was Tristram Hunt,

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who is a former Labour politician and currently director of the Victorian Albert Museum in London.

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And who was the chair of the event?

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It was chaired by Anne McElvoy, senior editor at The Economist and Columnist on the Evening Standard.

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And it was about the Victorians. Why are we doing this event now?

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