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Oh God, What Now?

The Very, Very Cross of St George

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Who let the flags out? We look at the mania for running a Cross of St George or Union Jack up the nearest lamp-post, who’s fomenting it and why it’s smart but dangerous politics for the far-right. Meanwhile Nigel Farage launches his completely uncosted, unrealistic, fantasy plan for mass deportations. Are the press so completely on the Reform bandwagon that they’ll just let it go unquestioned? Our special guest David Klemperer puts the case for compulsory voting and why it solves more problems than you think. And in the Extra Bit for Patreon people: TfL and the Tories team up against the scourge of people playing music on their phone speakers on public transport. Will they succeed – and what would we ban if we could? ESCAPE ROUTES  • David recommends Love and Death in Long Island by Gilbert Adair.  • Marie recommends French Exit by Patrick deWitt.  • Hannah recommends Evenings And Weekends by Oisin McKenna.  • Ros recommends A Midsummer Night’s Dream at the Bridge Theatre (but it’s finished and you can’t see it).  When you buy books through our affiliate bookshop, you help fund the podcast by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact [email protected] to find out more • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.  Written and presented by Ros Taylor, Hannah Fearn and Marie le Conte. Audio and video production by Chris Jones, Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Theme music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Oh God What Now. I'm looking around the studio and there's not a single union jack.

0:11.6

But the way things are going, there soon will be. Today we'll be talking about why flags are springing up all over the country and what it means.

0:19.3

We'll also be taking apart Reform's

0:21.1

mass deportation plan. Our special guest this week believes voting should be compulsory, but do the

0:27.0

panel agree? And in the extra bit for Patreon supporters, we're asking whether the plans to find

0:32.2

people who ruin everyone's journeys with their noisy phones will work, and what we'd personally like to ban.

0:39.3

Let's meet today's panel.

0:41.4

With us this week, he's award-winning housing journalist Hannah Fern. Hello, Hannah.

0:45.2

Hello, Ross.

0:46.6

Energy bills are going up again on top of the inflation figures. It's not great news, is it?

0:51.4

Not just energy bills, water bills as well.

0:58.3

I think this is one of the key problems is that energy bills going up.

1:01.3

We were kind of expecting it, but the rise is more than we were expecting.

1:04.1

It's going to be about £35 a year for the average bill.

1:10.1

And it comes hard on the back of a massive rise, particularly if we live in the south, southeast, Thames Water.

1:11.1

Many people have seen their bills doubling overnight between March and April.

1:15.4

So the real issue with this is obviously money in people's pockets and the fact that

1:20.5

Stama has spent the last year trying to offset what's coming from Farage by saying, we

1:26.4

care about the things you care about,

1:27.6

that's your quality of life, that's money in your pocket, that's how you feel. And these things

1:31.3

feel horrible. Yeah. Also joining us is columnist Marie LeCont. Hi, Marie. Hello. You've been in

1:38.5

Oslo this week. Yes, I have no money left. What took you there? Well, I was there doing a dispatch for my newsletter because they have an election coming up in about two weeks, which I thought would be interesting to cover. I'm going to level with you. The election is not that interesting, but what is slightly interesting, I think, is that, so the Labour government has been in power for a while now, and they were doing appallingly in the polls until the prime minister brought back Jen Stoltenberg as Minister of Finance. So he used to be the Prime Minister, essentially took over roughly at the same time as Blair and kind of very similar sort of type of guy of kind of, you know, centre-centre left, quite charismatic, etc. Stayed in power for a while, left, and then end up being head of NATO for a decade. And, yeah, clearly, Norwegian still absolutely love him because he got brought back into government and literally the Labour Party gained sort of like 10 or 15 points in the polls nearly overnight. So, yeah, it's kind of weird to see this one politician who's like, you know, the centrist kind of dad

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