The Very Serious Impact of Misinformation | Nico Perrino
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🗓️ 7 October 2024
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we sit down with Nico Perrino, a leading advocate for free speech and individual rights, currently serving at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE). Nico shares his views on the increasing government control over digital speech, the role of social media, and how misinformation and disinformation are shaping our society.
We dive deep into the debate around censorship, the dangers of having a "Ministry of Truth," and the future implications of AI on free speech. Whether it’s the growing concerns about misinformation or the battle between government intervention and freedom of expression, Nico gives us a fresh perspective on navigating these complex issues.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
2:46 Nico Perino: Free Speech Advocate Introduction
3:17 Social Media Misinformation & AI Concerns
7:14 Debating 1984 & Ministry of Truth
11:49 Misinformation, Fractured Sources, & Consensus
16:36 John Kerry on Governance & Free Speech
21:56 Fractured Truth: Media Referees & COVID
23:26 Morlocks Trap: Conspiracy Theories and Control
24:23 Misinformation Amplified by Algorithms & Bias
32:56 AI as a Tool for Finding Truth
36:59 Misinformation vs. Disinformation
39:58 The Pavel Durov Case
46:50 Comparing Telegram & Apple Encryption Cases
48:05 Brazil's Ban on X & VPN Penalties
52:58 Balkanization of the Internet and Free Speech
56:10 UK Online Safety Act
59:46 Global Misinformation Laws: Australia to U.S.
1:08:00 Government's Role in Protecting Free Speech
1:12:50 Bottom-Up Solutions for Truth & Speech
1:20:23 Inevitability of Censorship's Failures
1:22:33 Advancing Free Speech
1:23:01 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Nico
https://x.com/NicoPerrino
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| 0:00.0 | I do wonder though whether the crisis of truth really stems from our fractured media environment |
| 0:07.8 | or from the institutions that we entrusted with the power to sort truth from falsity failing us. Welcome to Bankless where today we explore the frontier of the problem of |
| 0:26.0 | misinformation. This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here at David Hoffman and we're |
| 0:29.4 | here to help you become more bankless. The question today is |
| 0:33.0 | misinformation a problem that governments really have to address. They |
| 0:36.4 | certainly seem to think so. A few current events that raised |
| 0:39.7 | eyebrows on the bankless podcast here, people getting arrested in the UK for social media |
| 0:44.6 | posts like what's going on there Brazil banning X and the kerfuffle with |
| 0:49.7 | Elon Musk California speech bills requiring the labeling of satire that's here in the United States. |
| 0:56.8 | Pavaldorov arrested, this is adjacently related, but for not producing chat logs for various governments around the world. |
| 1:05.0 | Could other tech CEOs get arrested for breaches of misinformation laws? |
| 1:10.0 | All of this today prompted the conversation with Nico Perino, he's our guests, and he argues that the |
| 1:14.8 | misinformation problem is massively overstated. And if our governments aren't careful, |
| 1:20.7 | they're all going to speedrun us into totalitarian surveillance states |
| 1:24.8 | through speech regulation. I think David and I tend to agree with him. You can listen and |
| 1:29.1 | decide for yourselves. I think the big takeaway I have from Nico from this |
| 1:32.1 | podcast is the idea that when there are massive technological shifts in society, |
| 1:38.0 | society tends to think that this is unprecedented times. We've never seen this before. |
| 1:43.4 | All rules need to be thrown out the door |
| 1:45.7 | and we just need to figure out things in this present moment. |
| 1:49.7 | When in reality, you know, times do rhyme. |
| 1:52.8 | We have seen this before. |
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