Jessica identifies my loving her out loud as courageous.

But the truth of the matter is we only need courage in the face of fear.

And I was not afraid to love her to the top of my throat.

This is Death, Sex, and Money.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

I'm Anna Sale.

I last spoke to actress Nisi Nash back in 2017.

It was on stage at the Ace Hotel in Los Angeles.

And in the five years since, her life has changed dramatically, including falling in love

and marrying her wife Jessica Betts and R&B singer-songwriter.

I talked to them both over Zoom while they were at home sitting on a couch together in LA.

They have the kind of love where they finish each other's sentences.

And after almost two years of marriage, they're still both so awestruck that they're together.

They told me that when they first met in 2015, they began a deep friendship.

And neither of them was expecting to fall in love.

Well, what happened was I saw Jessica in a documentary.

And...

The same difference.

A documentary called the same difference.

And I...

She didn't even speak in the documentary.

But when I saw her, something ethereal went through me that said, cover and protect.

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