The (Very Bright) Future of Violence
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 March 2015
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
This week, Brookings hosted a book launch with Harvard Law Professor Gabriella Blum and co-author Benjamin Wittes for their new book, The Future of Violence: Robots and Germs, Hackers and Drones—Confronting a New Age of Threat. The panel, which also featured Senior Fellow William Galston and the ACLU’s Ben Wizner, explored the book’s themes surrounding the potential dangers of modern technology in a world of many to many threats and defenses. What does technological proliferation mean for the framework of state and global security? How should we think about the interaction of liberty, security, and privacy? And, does this world of empowered individuals challenge the foundations of the liberal state?
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| 0:29.0 | What we currently see, and I think both trends are going to increase in the longer term, |
| 0:37.0 | is kind of the extreme vision of both unilateralism and multilateralism. |
| 0:43.0 | So we see countries, the most powerful countries, |
| 0:46.0 | extending their laws beyond their borders. |
| 0:49.0 | Think about the United States and material support, witness acts or material support for terrorism. |
| 0:54.0 | We see surveillance, even aggressive surveillance of citizens and countries around the world. |
| 1:00.0 | All the way to the most extreme use of unilateralism, which is targeted killings or bombing on a larger scale. |
| 1:07.0 | Our prediction is that in a world of many to many threats, we're going to see much more of that. |
| 1:12.0 | To make sure that we don't live in the wild west, and that we are more effective in what we do, |
| 1:18.0 | these unilateral efforts are going to have to be complemented by much more cooperation and multilateralism. |
| 1:26.0 | I'm Cody Poplin, and this is the LawFair podcast March 14, 2015. |
| 1:32.0 | That was Gabriella Blum you just heard. |
| 1:35.0 | The Rida E. Halzer, Professor of Human Rights, and Humanitarian Law at Harvard Law School. |
| 1:40.0 | This week, Brookings hosted a book launch with Professor Blum and co-author Benjamin Wittis |
| 1:45.0 | for their new book entitled The Future of Violence, Robots and Germs, Hackers and Drones, |
| 1:51.0 | Confronting a New Age of Threat. |
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