The Vegan Nightmare! Do Vegetables Have Souls?
Christopher Kimball’s Milk Street Radio
Milk Street Radio
4.2 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 17 October 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
According to journalist Zoë Schlanger, your garden isn’t just full of plants that are alive, but plants that can think—like the rice plant, which recognizes its own family members. Schlanger takes us inside a hotbed of scientific controversy: the study of plant intelligence. Plus, the Washington Post’s Joe Yonan masters the art of plant-based cooking; Grant Barrett and Martha Barnette help us wrap our heads around food words; and we make a Greek White Bean Soup. (Originally aired November 1, 2024.)
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Milk Street Radio listeners, this year for Thanksgiving, we want to hear all about your most unusual Thanksgiving traditions. |
| 0:07.1 | Your antics, your games, your rituals, and unexpected foods that you think no one else makes. |
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| 0:29.9 | This is Milk Street Radio from PRX. I'm your host, Christopher Kimball. Today it's all about plants. |
| 0:37.4 | And it turns out they're a lot smarter than we give them credit for. |
| 0:41.0 | So if you've ever wondered how your fruit trees know when to bloom in the spring, |
| 0:44.9 | some scientists believe it's because they remember winters past. |
| 0:48.9 | The plant is counting the elapsed time of cold to have this sufficient chill factor. And scientists and |
| 0:57.0 | farmers call this the memory of winter. Does having a memory mean plants are intelligent? We'll find out |
| 1:03.6 | later in the show. But first, it's time to talk vegetables. Joe Yonin joins me now. He's the author |
| 1:10.3 | of mastering the art of plant-based cooking. Joe Yonan joins me now. He's the author of Mastering the Art of Plant-Based Cooking. |
| 1:13.9 | Joe, welcome back to Milk Street. |
| 1:16.0 | Thank you, Chris. |
| 1:17.0 | Really excited to be here. |
| 1:18.7 | Last time we were talking about cool beans, the ultimate guide, |
| 1:22.9 | and I'll just say it again. |
| 1:24.7 | Everyone should go out and buy that book. |
| 1:26.2 | Oh, thanks. |
| 1:27.1 | Fabulous book. Thanks. So I love your new book about mastering the art of plant-based cooking, |
| 1:34.8 | and we're going to get into a bunch of recipes and stuff. But I do have a, I'm just going to |
| 1:39.5 | start with a weird question, which is the food world, as you well know, is really into authenticity, |
| 1:46.2 | right? Everything has to be authentic, although I don't buy that at all because recipes |
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