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The Vast Majority: What's Next for the Labour Party with David Broder

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🗓️ 26 December 2019

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

There's no way around it: the recent election results in the UK were crushing for the Left. But they also weren't the referendum on socialist policies that centrist pundits would have you believe they were.
Micah talked about this with David Broder, Jacobin's Europe editor. David wrote two articles for Jacobin in the wake of the election, which you can read here:


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0:00.0

Welcome to the vast majority. I'm Jacobin managing editor Micah Utricked.

0:07.0

If you're like me, you were completely crushed by the results from the UK elections. were a pretty resounding defeat for the

0:15.6

Labour Party and for Jeremy Corbyn and there's no question that it was a crushing

0:21.3

defeat nobody would deny that.

0:24.0

But I also think that it's not quite accurate to say that the UK election was some kind of resounding defeat for socialism. I mean the election was principally about Brexit

0:36.2

and Labor's stance on Brexit was certainly shot down and we should talk about why

0:41.0

it was shot down and you know what we can learn from that and mistakes

0:45.0

that the Labor Party shouldn't make again as well as other parties throughout

0:48.3

Europe or in the United States, but Labor ran on a robust left economic policy platform that was very popular.

0:56.2

And you can't say that those left economic policies were soundly rejected in this election

1:01.9

if the election was not fundamentally about those policies.

1:06.3

I think this is important to say because you've already seen some pundits in the United States,

1:11.6

in the UK and elsewhere say that election results in the UK show why we have to reject a leftward turn in parties like the Labor Party or in parties like the Democratic Party and what that is fundamentally about of course is telling people

1:26.8

we should not choose Bernie Sanders as the Democratic nominee for president we certainly

1:32.0

shouldn't elect him to be president.

1:34.0

That will be a disaster, that people will not go for what he's selling, and I think that that

1:39.3

is fundamentally wrong. Not only do I believe on a moral and political level that that's wrong, but I think that on a practical

1:45.2

political level it's very wrong.

1:47.5

And so I talked about this with David Broder.

1:51.2

David is Jacobin's Europe editor. He wrote two articles since the UK election

1:57.0

results came in. One on the night of the elections called I'm crying,

2:00.5

you're crying, but our day will come, and another called Labor's Brexit Dance defeated

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