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The Vast Majority: The Path to Bernie Victory Goes Through the Working Class with Shawn Gude

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Jacobin

Politics, History, News

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2020

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Bernie Sanders has won two states in a row, first Iowa and then New Hampshire. But how exactly did he do it? We talked to Jacobin's Shawn Gude, who gives some details about what the Sanders campaign's organizing looked like in Iowa, who ended up turning out for him, why Sanders has to overcome the barrier of post-Obama political despondency, and the campaign's path forward post-New Hampshire.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the vast majority. I'm Jacob and Managing Editor Micah Utrich.

0:06.0

We are recording this the day after the New Hampshire primary, which Bernie Sanders won.

0:12.0

It's the second state in a row that Bernie has won

0:14.4

after he won Iowa by 6,000 votes and we didn't really have a full conversation

0:20.8

about what happened in the lead up to Iowa's caucuses

0:24.0

because the entire conversation ended up being

0:27.0

about what happened during and after the caucuses

0:30.0

and what happened during and after the caucuses

0:32.0

were numerous maddening procedural problems

0:35.0

that became a real embarrassment for the Iowa Democratic Party,

0:38.0

and totally coincidentally, entirely seemed to hurt Bernie Sanders and help his opponents.

0:44.4

And that was the entire narrative that came out of the Caucasus.

0:46.4

It was one of confusion and incompetence and conspiracy theorizing.

0:51.6

And who won wasn't clear to many people and actually seemed secondary

0:56.0

to the bigger story of all of the incompetence and how they won was barely being

1:01.6

discussed at all and that's a real shame for Sanders, not only

1:07.1

because he deserved the momentum coming out of Iowa, but because his campaign did incredible organizing among working-class communities,

1:15.6

communities of color, and immigrant communities throughout the state.

1:18.8

That organizing has received some attention, especially by publications like the

1:24.1

intercept who's done great reporting on it but that organizing hasn't received

1:28.2

enough attention so I talked to Sean Goody associate editor at Jacobin and a native Iowan, who went back to

1:36.2

Iowa multiple times in the lead up to the Caucasus and on the day of the Caucasus itself

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