Welcome to the vast majority. I'm Jackman Managing Editor Micah Utrich.

This is the second part of my conversation with Eric Blanc, author of the new book, Red State Revolt, The Teacher Strikes, and Working Class Politics.

His book is so good, we had to have two conversations about it.

It's, folks, it's so nice nice we had to podcast twice.

The producer Sarah heard my producers looking at me just just rolling her eyes

at me right now but it's true I'd highly recommend listening to the first

episode which is up at Jacobin radio in this episode we talk about the role of

the militant minority of rank and file workers in the teacher strike wave, what their presence meant in Arizona

in West Virginia, and what their absence meant in Oklahoma.

We also talk about the possibilities for radicals today to intervene in labor struggles around the country and to help

rebuild that militant minority. Eric has a whole chapter on the militant

minority in his book and I wrote a paper for the Labor Studies Journal along

with sociologist Barry Eidlin, on the role of the militant

minority in the American labor movement historically, what the militant minority did, why

it disappeared in American unions, and why the rebuilding of that layer of the

military is central to revitalizing US labor. I'll link to that paper in the

show notes. Okay here's Eric Blanc, author of Red State Revolt, the

teacher strikes and working class politics. So you have a chapter in your book

called The Militant Minority, it's about So you have a chapter in your book called the militant minority.

It's about the role of this militant minority in, the role of or lack of the militant minority

in the three states that you cover.

So can you just first talk about this idea?

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