Welcome to the vast majority. I'm Jacobin managing editor Micah Utrich.

Leftists are used to making the argument that we need a push for left politics despite the fact that

left candidates aren't always popular. But in 2020 things are different

because not only is Bernie Sanders the candidate with the strongest left platform, as well as the only

candidate with a vision of social and political change coming from the bottom up rather than the top

down.

He's also the most electable candidate according to a wide range of metrics.

You should not let anybody fool you otherwise.

I spoke with Megan Day about all this.

She's the co-author with Jacobin contributing editor Matt

Karp of the article Bernie is the candidate who can beat Trump. Here's why in

Jackman. Matt and his wife just had a baby so we let him off the hook for this episode.

Megan is a staff writer at Jacobin. She also wrote a book with me that will be out soon which

we mentioned in the beginning of the conversation and you can pre-order that book on

Amazon if you so desire. Okay here's me and Megan Day. Hello Megan.

Hi Micah. What you been up to lately? Been doing anything?

Mm, yes.

I have been writing a book with you.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

It's right.

There's a book that we wrote together.

Yeah, we wrote it.

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