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The Vast Majority: Bigger than Bernie with Meagan Day

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🗓️ 3 April 2020

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

'Bigger than Bernie: How We Go from the Sanders Campaign to Democratic Socialism' is out this week, and coauthors Micah Uetricht and Meagan Day are talking about it today.
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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to the vast majority. I'm Jack been managing editor Micah Utrich,

0:08.0

recording live from quarantine where maybe we will all be for the rest of our lives. Our boy

0:15.3

Bernie is facing some pretty tough odds in the Democratic race right now. Tough

0:21.0

odds both in the delegate math against Joe Biden but also in the fact that it's

0:24.7

a bit difficult to campaign during that pandemic and we shouldn't totally count him

0:30.7

out yet because who knows what Biden is going to say or do next and who

0:35.2

knows what the threshold is for Democratic Party leaders in mainstream media who

0:40.4

knows at what point they'll see like their 48 you know absolutely

0:45.2

cringe-worthy and completely nonsensical live stream or MS NBC interview from

0:49.6

Biden and decide that they have to be the adult in the room and gang Biden off the stage.

0:54.0

Who knows what's going to happen there?

0:55.4

But there's no getting around that things are looking pretty tough for burning.

1:00.5

He should absolutely stay in the race because he has a critical role to play in keeping progressive policies on the national agenda, but his odds for winning the presidency are definitely stacked against him.

1:13.0

But rather than bemoaned this state of affairs,

1:17.0

we should start assessing what we've learned from the Sanders campaign

1:20.0

and where we go from here.

1:22.0

And it is my contention that where we are after two Bernie Sanders

1:29.2

presidential runs after the rebirth of socialism on the national stage after the explosion and

1:35.2

membership and relevance of a group like the Democratic socialists of America after

1:40.4

a teacher strike wave and worker militancy exploding during this pandemic after all

1:45.8

of these things we're actually in pretty good shape which makes that

1:49.2

conversation about where we should go from here all the more urgent.

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