And the Uh, John, not John Mitchinson, John Williams, where are you? I can see where you are, you're in a room, but where in the world are you?

You have found me out, I am in a room. I am in a room in my apartment in Brooklyn, New York, a neighborhood called Williamsburg.

Is the Williamsburg of where the Hasidic community is?

There is a large Hasidic community in Williamsburg.

It's a big, there are a lot of Italian people who have lived here for a very long time.

And then there are relatively younger people like me who are destroying the whole place and

it's also most famously or infamously the the locale for the HBO series girls

which is where it got its reputation from I think. Is your continuing

presence in Williamsburg John a sign of its ongoing hipness or the opposite?

You know for the first ongoing hipness or the opposite?

You know, for the first several years I lived in New York, I lived in a neighborhood called Park Slope in Brooklyn, which is a, which is sort of a quiet family neighborhood. And then when I, as I approached 40, I I moved to Williamsburg so I sort of

did the reverse life commute it is it is fairly hip in Williamsburg but pretty

gentrified at this point so the the real hipsters have gone two or three neighborhoods over toward the east.

Have we got enough there, Nick, for general ambience? We have, haven't we? We have.

I'm not used to seeing Nicky look so dressed up and against the backdrop.

I feel very underdressed today. I feel like I ought to go and get a at least get a cardigan to put on.

So I've done that thing where you can touch up your appearance. You can make yourself on Zoom, get

rid of your wrinkles. How weird. I've got rid of my wrinkles by shaving off my beard.

Look at me, I'm 12 again, but with grey hair.

Weird, it's a religious experience for us, I know.

I am having a fairly severe hair and beard trim on Tuesday,

so that's one of the things I'm doing when I...

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