Alex met Sam at nursery. They were first loves. They built forts together, shared sandwiches in high school, and were each other's first kiss.

They were the dream couple, Sam got into EDM music.

While Alex enjoyed folk, first loves are kind of like your current account. If they aren't working for you anymore,

maybe it's time to switch with the True Crime Podcast. I'm Danny Murphy and also me and Sarah,

we were just talking. We are ships passing in the night. I was out last week, Sarah is away this week. I mean, January is hard. People say, you know, it's the new year, new me. I'm a big February believer for that. I feel like everybody was sick, so I was down for the count but now I am so much

stronger and I have been through so many clinics issues I'm very excited for that and I

think Sarah is on a very well-deserved chilling vacation but we will be back together next week.

I'm mad Sarah isn't here because she would love to talk about this scam with me

but I'm excited because I feel I just wanted to listen to it because I think she would just like love this story in its whole.

So I'm glad that hopefully this will be for her flight home.

She can have some entertainment because we are talking about Melissa Katech and if you're like who is she that's fair

I didn't I wasn't as familiar with I knew her story more than her name and I had to go

not just across the pond but across a few ponds to Australia for this because I feel like you know sometimes when you're like when

you're looking for inspiration you got to be like where I need to leave I need to just spin the map spin the globe I don't have a globe but it'd be very fun to have one in my apartment maybe I don't have that much space in a studio apartment for an ostentatious globe but if I did I would be spinning it my

finger would land right to Australia and I'd be like let's take into what go and

what's going on over there a little bit about. She was born on April 21st, 1971, day before Earth Day.

And she grew up in a suburb of Sydney, Australia. All the kind of ideas and everything about her early life like there was some some people

were spilling a little tea about her it was comfortable and middle class and before we get

into all of the research and stuff about her, I just want to shout out

CNN.com, the Guardian.com, and SMH.com. I swear it's an actual website but I just laugh so much it's called

SMEch because I was shaking my head at Melissa. I want to thank them all for their

research because I got all of this information from all of those different sites so if any of you are from

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