The Value of Giving Prisoners an Education
To the Point
KCRW
4.4 • 583 Ratings
🗓️ 25 December 2015
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
America's crackdown on crime is giving way to concern about the high-cost of mass incarceration. President Obama wants to give Pell Grants for college to inmates in prison — to find out if higher education makes them less likely to commit new crimes. Researchers say he already knows the answer.
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| 0:00.0 | Join left-right and center host Bob Shear for his new podcast, Shear Intelligence. |
| 0:06.4 | The twice-monthly podcast features thinkers and trendsetters in conversation with one of political journalism's leading voices. |
| 0:14.0 | Through the show's unique and sometimes surprising perspectives, you'll get up to speed on the current issues shaping the Beltway and the world. Find sheer |
| 0:23.8 | intelligence on KCRW's iTunes page. From KCRW in Santa Monica and PRI Public Radio International, |
| 0:33.0 | this is To the Point. Pell Grants, for prisoners? |
| 0:41.4 | Hello again, I'm Armin Alney, and this is a rebroadcast of To the Point from Public Radio |
| 0:45.5 | International, a daily look at the issues Americans care about most. |
| 0:48.8 | Pell grants are for students who can't afford college. |
| 0:51.5 | In the 1990s, Congress banned them for inmates in prisons. This year, |
| 0:56.4 | President Obama took a big step toward lifting that ban, which he's allowed to do in the interests |
| 1:01.3 | of gathering data. But the data is already in. Education helps former prisoners do better on the outside. |
| 1:07.9 | They're less likely to be imprisoned again, and that saves taxpayer money. |
| 1:12.6 | Opponents say students who've never committed crimes are more deserving will bring you that |
| 1:16.8 | debate. On our talking point, we'll go inside a California prison class to hear what college-level |
| 1:23.0 | education is like behind bars. First, here's the news. coverage and accessible via our smartphone app or online at kCRW.com. |
| 1:49.4 | Support for To the Point comes from the members of KCRW and from the Public Radio |
| 1:54.6 | International Program Fund. Hello again. I'm Armin Alney back with To the Point. America's |
| 1:59.6 | crackdown on crime is giving way to |
| 2:01.5 | concern about the high cost of mass incarceration. President Obama wants to give Pell Grants for |
| 2:06.7 | college to inmates in prison to find out if higher education makes them less likely to commit |
| 2:11.7 | new crimes. Researchers say that's already well known and accepted. The debate over Pell Grants had one of our |
| 2:18.6 | producers asking this question, what kind of college level classes can some inmates already |
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