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In Our Time: Science

The Vacuum of Space

In Our Time: Science

BBC

History

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2009

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests Frank Close, Jocelyn Bell Burnell and Ruth Gregory discuss the Vacuum of Space. The idea that there is a nothingness at the heart of nature has exercised philosophers and scientists for millennia, from Thales's belief that all matter was water to Newton's concept of the Ether and Einstein's idea of Space-Time. Recently, physicists have realised that the vacuum is not as empty as we thought and that the various vacuums of nature vibrate with forces and energies, waves and particles and the mysterious phenomena of the Higgs field and dark energy.

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0:00.0

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0:10.0

I hope you enjoy the program.

0:12.0

Hello, when contemplating the vacuum of space in the 17th century,

0:16.0

the physicist Blais Pascal claimed,

0:19.0

the eternal silence of these infinite spaces

0:22.0

fills me with dread.

0:23.0

But we're here round today Pascal's anguish might have been assuaged

0:27.0

for the vacuum of space, while certainly silent and possibly infinite, is by no means empty.

0:32.0

It's a seething mass of particles, of

0:34.6

interactions, forces and energy. To study it undermines the distinction

0:39.2

between something and nothing. But by examining the nature of the vacuum, we get closer to

0:44.0

understanding the fabric of reality and the expansion of the universe.

0:47.4

With me to discuss the vacuum of space at Jocelyn Bell-Burnell,

0:51.5

visiting professor in astrophysics at Oxford University,

0:55.0

Ruth Gregory, Professor of Theoretical Physics at Durham University,

0:59.0

and Frank Close, Professor of Physics at Exeter College, University of Oxford.

1:04.1

Frank Close, the idea of nothing was something which preoccupied the Greeks.

1:07.8

Yes, Aristotle, I think, decided that there was no such thing as nothing and the idea that nature

1:14.9

abhorres a vacuum which is a phrase that everybody's heard but probably what

1:18.8

does it actually mean held sway for 2,000 years.

1:23.0

And in the Middle Ages, there was a lot of religious conflict as well.

1:27.0

The idea that God would make nothing was regarded as heresy.

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