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I'm about ready to run off the golf course Welcome. Welcome to the Friday Golf Podcast. I'm Garrett Morrison and today we're talking

about rollback with two high-level USGA officials.

Our guests are Mike Wahn, the CEO of the USGA,

and Thomas Pagel, the chief governance officer.

So on Wednesday, the USGA and RNA announced that they would institute a universal rollback of the golf ball

starting in 2028 for elite competition and filtering down to the amateur game by 2030.

One of the key revelations of this announcement is that the governing bodies expect the impact

of the new ball to be substantially less on the average amateurs

game than has been reported so far and we'll get into some of those details.

So if you've listened to this podcast before, you know that I favor a

rollback. In fact, I'd get behind a larger rollback than the one that the USGA and RNA have been intending to carry out here.

But having Mike Juan and Thomas Pagle on this podcast at this moment, I think is an opportunity

to pose to them some challenging questions to get the

responses to some common criticisms of the rollback.

So I'm hoping to represent not just my perspective on this issue, but also bring in the main counter

arguments that I've been seeing, because I think it's important to subject the governing body's

ideas to some scrutiny here. Now before we get into my interview with

Mike Juan and Thomas Pagle, I want to say a few words about our sponsor for this episode,

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