Welcome to bewildered. I'm Martha Beck here with Rowan Mangan. At this crazy moment in

history a lot of people are feeling bewildered, but that actually may be a sign we're on

track. Human culture teaches us to come to consensus, but nature, our own true nature,

helps us come to our senses. Rowan and I believe that the best way to figure it all out

is by going through a wilderness into bewildered. That's why we're here.

You know what I'm seeing out in the world is a lot of fear and a growing amount of despair.

Maybe you're feeling that way too, because the ways our culture has taught us to navigate

the world, to navigate our lives, they are failing us. We need a new language, we need

a new set of tools to find our way individually and as a group. And I know we can still do this.

I put everything I do know about it into wayfinder life coach training and the tools that I teach

there are to help people redefine how we relate to each other, how we make a living, how we do

community. We can only change the world for the better if we redefine how we think. Registration

is open for the fall and the world needs wayfinders now more than ever. So please go to

marthabag.com and you'll find your way.

Hi, I'm Martha Beck and I'm Rowan Mengen. This is another episode of BeWildered the podcast

for people trying to figure it out. How you doing, Muddy? I'm doing well. Yeah, doing my little

ADD hyper focus versus totally destructible. But it's fun. Love it. Love it. How are you doing?

I'm good. I'm good. I'm trying to figure things out the way I do lately. I've been thinking about how

we, you and I, still have a lot of perplexing cultural misunderstandings, often accent related,

I should say, rather than cultural. Is that fair? Yeah. Yeah, accent related at the other day.

I still don't even know how this happened actually because the other day, we're chatting away about

writing novels. I'm in the bath, usually, I'm right now. I'm not right now. So I was in the bath

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