The Untold Story of the Gaza Ceasefire - Thomas Small

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Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

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🗓️ 19 October 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Thomas Small is a historian and filmmaker best known as co-host of the Conflicted podcast, where he explores Middle Eastern history, geopolitics, and religious thought alongside ex-jihadi Aimen Dean. He also writes on ancient Christian spirituality and global conflict dynamics. Triggernometry is proudly independent. Thanks to the sponsors below for making that possible: - Qualia Senolytic. Go to https://Qualialife.com/TRIG for up to 50% off AND use code TRIG at checkout for an additional 15% off. - HIMS: Hairloss treatment, go to https://hims.com/trigger - We recommend Brad Vs. Everyone podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts - Augusta Precious Metals: Protect Your Retirement with Physical Gold. Rated #1. Click to learn more: https://bit.ly/4as3C6J Join our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Substack! https://triggernometry.substack.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Shop Merch here - https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: [email protected] Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry: Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. 00:00 - Introduction 04:02 - How Did The Ceasefire Come About? 18:51 - Was The Doha Attack Used By The US To Put Pressure On Hamas? 26:29 - Trump Praised Turkey In Addition To Qatar For Their Role In Getting The Ceasefire 34:37 - The Future 46:43 - How Much Of Hamas Is Left? 52:14 - How Do You Solve The Problem Of Iran? 58:28 - Will Hamas Be Convinced To Leave Gaza? 01:12:21 - The Views Young People Have Towards Israel 01:18:35 - What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About That We Really Should Be? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It would be good to start with the remarkable attack that Israel launched against top Hamas
0:10.4	leaders in the Qatari capital of Doha. It outraged everyone. It obviously outraged the Qatari's,
0:17.1	but it really outraged the United States.
0:23.5	Amiradi dignitaries that I've spoken to recently,
0:27.1	they say that very quickly it went from the Gulf,
0:29.5	seeing Iran as the primary threat,
0:31.6	to Israel being the threat.
0:35.2	How did de-radicalize the Gazans?
0:37.4	I have no idea how you even begin to do that. Hamas is definitely radical.
0:39.2	They don't live in the real world. They live in a fantasy and it will be hard to get rid of them.
0:43.6	Maybe there is, there's some optimism there then. It's not all... But you have to get rid of Hamas.
0:48.3	Of course. Everyone agrees.
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