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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

The Untold Story of Alice Ball

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Places & Travel, Society & Culture

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In 1930, the King of Thailand gifted a tree to the University of Hawaii in Manoa for developing a treatment for leprosy. For decades, the tree has stood as a symbol of the groundbreaking scientific achievement. However, the woman who created the solution was missing from the story.

Transcript

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0:00.0

There's a tree on the campus of the University of Hawaii in Manoa that tells a story of history hidden in plain sight.

0:09.3

You'd never tell by looking at it.

0:11.1

It's a rather unassuming tree as most trees go.

0:14.1

But then again, this story is about what's missing.

0:20.6

The tree itself was a thank you gift from the king of Thailand.

0:24.7

It was a symbolic gesture for an important medical breakthrough developed on campus,

0:30.5

a treatment for Hansen's disease, also known as leprosy.

0:36.3

The seeds of the tree were the solution.

0:39.3

Its oils held an active ingredient known to provide relief from the disease.

0:45.3

But the medical field lacked the knowledge to refine it for treatment.

0:49.3

That was, until a young black woman from Seattle figured it out.

0:53.3

Her name was Alice Ball.

0:57.8

The problem was the story.

1:01.3

Ball's name wasn't a part of it.

1:03.1

It was left off of her study, missing from history,

1:06.6

and nowhere around the tree planted in recognition of her work.

1:11.6

I'm Jerome Campbell, and this is Alice Obscura,

1:15.6

a celebration of the world's strange, incredible, and wondrous places.

1:20.6

Today, we're going to get down to the root of the matter,

1:24.6

the untold story of Alice Ball, the impact of her work, and how her story

1:31.0

became the true telling of history. I don't know about you, but I like to think of myself as someone who knows just a bit about science.

1:58.3

But my list of notable figures in the field generally consists of the usual suspects.

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