Welcome back to The Exorcist Files, and today it's about to get really weird.

And that's saying something, considering how much weirdness we do purvey on the show.

I am joined by my new friend, Dr. Joel Matamale, who is a theologian,

a pastor, a podcast host, and potentially even a purveyor of E knock-knock jokes. We'll see if we'll get

one of those. Teaching theology adds Proverbs 31 ministries and host of Therapy and Theology podcast.

He also works the Transformation Church. He has a brand

new book out, The Unseen Battle, which we're going to get all into. He's a PhD, and he has just

enough knowledge to mess up most of our minds in any tradition that you follow with Christianity.

So we welcome Dr. Montemale to the show, and I do have to start, Doctor. Can I tell you an Enoch, knock, knock?

I mean, if you didn't, I'd be so disappointed, so let's do it. All right, this is an Enoch, knock joke,

all right? So, Enoch, knock. Who's there? Jay. Jay, who? My favorite king in Book of Kings.

Wow, thanks for quoting that and bringing up. We'll get into that later.

It's pretty dumb, right? You know, my kid, I've got a 14, 12, and 10 year old three boys. And they would have been like, that is a great A dad joke right there. Good job. Oh my gosh. I actually just came up with that this morning. I was making my smoothie and it is where Jayhu will get into that another time. Like not necessarily a great guy, but like there's just that moment where he just like locks up all the prophets in the temple and just goes. It's like, here's the guy who is like, you know what? I don't know what everyone else's problem is, but I'm just going to follow God's orders and just kill everybody who's on the wrong side. It was like, Jehu is kind of a badass. Not my hero, but, you know, badass. Yeah, that kind of, kind of, kind of, not a, the bar's pretty low with kings, though, right? I mean, if you really get into it, it's, isn't it get infuriating after a while? God's like, okay, here's the deal.

I promise this to David. I'll give you the same offer, right? Walk with me, do it the right way.

Gotcha. Right. And it's just like, and don't you like how each king starts with the preface?

And he was worse than everyone who came before. It's like a domino effect of disaster that just continue.

And every now and then you get this little, you know, King Josiah pop sap or you got King

Hezekiah.

And it's like, Hezekiah was great until you read the part.

Like basically it's like, yeah, you will extend your life, but it's going to be horrific for

the for everybody after you.

And Hezekiel is like, that's a good deal.

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