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The grand conceit of it all, and then I will stop because I could go on about this forever.

It's just so delicious and hilarious to me.

But the grand conceit is that like the deep introspective moral problem of Kristen Duns's character

and all of these valiant reporters who by the way all for some reason work for

Reuters and the New York Times as if those are the people that are really getting

the cutting edge journalism today

and putting themselves in harmed way but like their biggest internal struggle is like

how can we be neutral at a time like this?

It's like you're not neutral.

You haven't been neutral for like a decade

and this movie isn't neutral.

So the whole thing is this elaborate kind of self-flattering conceit on Garland's part and on the part of I'm sure the people he's playing to which is the press.

I just think it's like, you know, it's almost, I wish I would have enjoyed more a serious and careful far left description of

you know the evils of Trumpist America.

Like that would have been more interesting than this movie,

but alas. Oh, Welcome everyone once again to the roundtable the American Minds editors and publishers podcast.

I'm your host for two weeks running this is this is a new new normal

Ryan Williams president of the Clermon Institute publisher of the American Mind and the

Clermon Review books. I'm joined by Spencer Claven. Editor at large of the American

Mind formerly features editor, although still heavily involved in all great things at the American Mind and associate editor of the Clermont Review books.

Seth Barron, managing editor of the American Mind, and we have a guest this week. James is out but we have a guest. Many of you know him. Senior fellow of the Claremont Institute Jeremy Carl who has a new book out which we wanted to open this episode to discuss a little bit.

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