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History That Doesn't Suck

The Unlikely Union: "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

History That Doesn't Suck

ProfGregJackson

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.55.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Professor Greg Jackson shares a personal message about our politically divided times and announces more tour dates for his live show: The Unlikely Union.  This show is not recorded for the podcast. Go to HTDSpodcast.com/live-shows for more information and dates.  Prof. Jackson’s national tour has already been to half of the 50 states, so-called red and blue states, big cities and small towns.  What he’s encountered is everyday people, regardless of their political stripe coming together to share in the telling of the extraordinary history of the first century of our nation. That period from fiery revolution through bloody civil war is– not despite of, but because of its ugly and all but insurmountable challenges– a consoling reminder that we have been through far, far worse times and much greater division than is even imaginable today.  And it's a cautionary tale. Our great strength is our union and our great peril is our division.  The words of the Republican candidate from Illinois for the US Senate spoken in 1858 ring true today:  "A house divided against itself cannot stand." You're damn right, Abe. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I don't you go to the line? Yeah, I 17, 1787.

0:46.3

This convention has been hard.

0:49.3

Locked in Philadelphia's hot, sweltering statehouse, Disagreement has been sharp. Some delegates have

0:55.9

full-on rage quit. Barely more than 40 of the summer's total, 55 delegates are still here.

1:02.3

Alexander Hamilton is the only New Yorker left, and Rhode Island never even sent a delegation.

1:07.0

So at this point, the choice of every man left to sign and thereby personally endorse this Constitution's proposed form of union could be its making or its undoing.

1:16.6

In this moment, elderly Benjamin Franklin wishes to say a word.

1:20.9

It's been 33 years since he published that join-or-die cartoon, done in response to the military challenges, then faced in the Ohio

1:27.8

Valley by this convention's president, George Washington.

1:32.0

He's too old to speak at length, but Ben hands a written speech to his colleague, James Wilson,

1:37.8

who proceeds to read the old Renaissance man's prepared words.

1:44.3

I confess that there are several parts of this Constitution which I do not at present approve,

1:50.8

but I am not sure I shall never approve them for having lived long.

1:56.3

I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information or fuller consideration

2:03.6

to change opinions even on important subjects.

2:07.6

The older I grow, the more apt I am to tout my own judgment and to pay more respect to the judgment of others.

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