The Unfinished Revolution with Atlantic EIC Jeffrey Goldberg

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🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Our nation's founders built a system to guard against human ego and corruption. In 2025, that system is under siege. Katie talks with Atlantic editor-in-chief (and SignalGate-veteran) Jeffrey Goldberg about the magazine's monumental new issue, The Unfinished Revolution, which asks whether the American experiment can survive its latest stress test: Donald Trump. It's a conversation about history repeating itself, the precious fragility of democracy, and why the people who established this nation might be horrified by where it's headed.

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:07.0	The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years,
0:14.0	until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
0:20.9	America, y'all better work the hell up.
0:22.9	Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
0:32.5	Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to
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0:46.7	Malcolm Gladwell here. This season on Revisionous History, we're going back to the spring of
0:51.2	1988 to a town in northwest Alabama, where a man committed
0:55.0	a crime that would spiral out of control.
0:57.7	And he said, I've been in prison 24, 25 years.
1:00.5	That's probably not long enough.
1:02.5	And I didn't kill him.
1:04.3	From Revisionous History, this is The Alabama Murders.
1:08.5	Listen to Revisionous History, The Alabama Murders on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
1:16.6	I look too formal.
1:17.8	Do I look too?
1:18.4	No, I got dressed up for you, too.
1:20.3	Oh, that's nice.
1:22.7	All right, here we go.
1:23.9	I'm really excited to talk to you, Jeff, because I need a therapy session about what the fuck is going on.
1:30.0	And I'm excited to talk to you.
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