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On the Media

The Undertow

On the Media

WNYC Studios

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4.68.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The problems with "the second wave"; social movement cycles; why protests are sanitized by history; and remembering the Tulsa Massacre.

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0:00.0

How will a second wave manifest itself? How will we know that one is upon us?

0:06.0

This week, waves, viral and political. From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Burke Gladstone.

0:14.0

And I'm Bob Garfield. After weeks of violent protest got wall-to-wall coverage, the current lull has some questioning, what's next for Black Lives Matter?

0:23.9

When the cameras turn off, we think that the movement activity has somehow ended, but it hasn't.

0:30.7

It's that what is required of us has shifted.

0:34.0

Also, a white historian from Oklahoma learned of the 1921 Tulsa massacre only by chance.

0:41.4

It was never covered, never taught. When you learn something like that that took place so close to you

0:48.5

and so intimately involved in your history, it feels like it changes your identity.

0:56.1

It's all coming up after this.

1:00.6

From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media.

1:04.7

I'm Bob Garfield.

1:05.9

And I'm Brooke Gladstone.

1:07.8

Well, this week has been unusually tricky.

1:10.7

Since the lockdown, the prevailing narrative in the previous seven days, was relatively easy to identify and explore. But this week, not so much. The tension hasn't abated, but it's become amorphous, infused with the prospect or maybe the hope of change for the better.

1:31.7

Anyway, it seemed an apt time to look into the past and ahead into the middle distance.

1:38.6

We are awash in waves right now, ranging from the viral to the political. So let's start with the viral,

1:46.8

where after months of experience, clarity is still hard to find. Nobody really knows, is there

1:53.2

a second wave? Is there not a second wave? How will a second wave manifest itself? How will we

1:58.4

know that one is upon us? The fear of a second coronavirus wave is now

2:03.3

a reality. This week, Vice President Pence wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that ran with the

2:09.1

headline, there isn't a coronavirus, quote, second wave. The peace claims that the media is fueling

2:17.0

unwarranted panic, that unwavering progress

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