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🗓️ 26 June 2025
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93% of people are metabolically unhealthy, and it’s not because they’re lazy or eating too much fat. It’s because their bodies forgot how to burn fat at all. This episode gives you a complete roadmap to reboot your metabolism, escape the sugar-burning trap, and reignite your fat-burning engine for good.
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Host Dave Asprey sits down with Ben Azadi, functional health expert, best-selling author of Metabolic Freedom, and one of today’s most trusted voices in the ketogenic and fasting space. After reversing his own obesity through biohacking and functional medicine, Ben has helped millions unlock metabolic flexibility and master human performance through smarter-not-harder strategies.
They explore how high insulin, not fat or salt, drives most chronic disease, and why your doctor probably isn’t testing for it. You’ll learn the truth about seed oils, fructose, and blood sugar spikes, and why most people using continuous glucose monitors are still missing the real metabolic threat.
You’ll also discover how to:
• Switch out of sugar-burning mode and back into fat-burning ketosis
• Use fasting, cold therapy, and sleep optimization to repair mitochondrial damage
• Fix hidden nutrient deficiencies with the right supplements, potassium, and electrolytes
• Build real metabolic resilience with Danger Coffee, functional medicine, and nootropics
• Avoid the trap of endless keto or carnivore and learn how to cycle your way to true metabolic freedom
• Understand why low HRV, high insulin, and sleep debt crush longevity, energy, and brain optimization
• Decode how neuroplasticity, emotional regulation, and resilience all connect to metabolism
This is your science-backed guide to transforming your energy, losing stubborn fat, and becoming metabolically unstoppable.
Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade is the top podcast for people who want to take control of their biology, extend their longevity, and optimize every system in the body and mind. Each episode features cutting-edge insights in health, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, hacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.
Episodes are released every Tuesday and Thursday, where Dave asks the questions no one else dares, and brings you real tools to become more resilient, aware, and high performing.
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Resources:
• Dave Asprey’s New Book - Heavily Meditated: https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated/
• Ben’s New Book - Metabolic Freedom: A 30-Day Guide to Restore Your Metabolism, Heal Hormones & Burn Fat: https://www.amazon.com/Metabolic-Freedom-Restore-Metabolism-Hormones/dp/1401994369
• Ben’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebenazadi/?hl=en
• Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com
• Dave Asprey’s Website: https://daveasprey.com
• Dave Asprey’s Linktree: https://linktr.ee/daveasprey
• Upgrade Collective – Join The Human Upgrade Podcast Live: https://www.ourupgradecollective.com
• Own an Upgrade Labs: https://ownanupgradelabs.com
• Upgrade Labs: https://upgradelabs.com
• 40 Years of Zen – Neurofeedback Training for Advanced Cognitive Enhancement: https://40yearsofzen.com
Timestamps:
• 00:00 Trailer
• 01:04 Intro
• 02:42 Insulin Explained
• 06:00 Salt vs. Potassium
• 08:10 Uric Acid & Fructose
• 12:56 Health Trolls
• 18:14 Seed Oil Truth
• 24:24 Cooking Oil Breakdown
• 31:08 Carnivore & Flexibility
• 34:57 Gut Test Insights
• 36:09 Cholesterol Panel
• 36:43 LMHR Explained
• 37:39 Inflammation Markers
• 40:25 Managing Autoimmunity
• 42:07 Gut Bacteria & Fiber
• 46:55 Fasting for Gut Health
• 48:03 Saturated Fat & Gut
• 49:34 Oxalates & Diet
• 57:32 Metabolic Efficiency
• 01:03:08 Hormesis & Stress
• 01:08:21 Final Takeaways
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0:00.0 | If you've been listening to the show, you know that I just came out with my new book, |
0:04.8 | heavily meditated this May. It's the fast path to remove your triggers, dissolve stress, |
0:10.1 | and activate inner peace. Go check it out at Dave Asprey.com backslash books. |
0:18.0 | Steak and shake who are saying, hey, we're frying our French fries and beef tallow, which is a good fat. |
0:23.0 | But when I did some research on steak and shake, they pre-fry their French fries and canola and soybean before it's in beef tallow. |
0:29.6 | I have not in 18 years eaten aceto oil, at least not on purpose. |
0:33.8 | I've been on national news getting criticized for saying I would smoke a cigarette before I |
0:37.7 | would eat a plate of french fries. If I could eat a plate of fries or smoke a cigarette, I'll take |
0:41.9 | the cigarette. If you've never smoked a tobacco cigarette before, but you've eaten 10,000 French |
0:46.9 | fries, you've essentially smoked 20 or 10,000 tobacco cigarettes because of the aldehyde content. |
0:52.2 | Today we're joined by Benazardi, a best-selling |
0:54.5 | author and health coach who's best known for his work with keto, fasting, and helping people reset their |
0:59.6 | metabolism. We know these seed oils, they're highly unstable because of the chemical nature of them. |
1:04.5 | They're called polyunsaturated fatty acids. The word poly means many. They contain many double bonds. |
1:10.0 | What's your take on avocado? |
1:12.8 | You're listening to The Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. |
1:19.1 | Ben, New York Times bestseller first time this week as we're recording this. |
1:25.5 | Congratulations. |
1:26.5 | Thank you, Dave. |
1:27.3 | You have led the way, my friend. It's super cool. I'm very grateful. |
1:31.4 | Wow. I know how much work it is and how exciting it is and well deserved. This is a fantastic book that you've written. |
1:39.2 | Thank you. And I want to know, given the research you've done, I think we might agree on some things, |
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