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The Dispatch Podcast

The Ukraine-Russia War Is Entering a New Phase

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg, David French, and Mike Nelson to discuss the “new phase” of the Ukraine-Russia war, the “imminent” deal with Iran, and the partisan cheerleading for Graham Platner and Ken Paxton. The Agenda: —Exaggerating Ukraine's demise —U.S. support for Ukraine —The imminent Iran deal —Similarities between Paxton and Platner —The poison of partisan cheerleading —NWYT: The Great American State Fair Show notes: —Lydia Moynihan on Ken Paxton —Kevin Williamson on the 250 celebration —Mike Nelson on the Iran quagmire —Iran’s New ‘Nuclear’ Weapon The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including audio versions of all our articles and newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes. On today's roundtable, we'll look at the latest

0:35.8

developments in the Ukraine-Russia

0:37.5

war and how the battlefield may be shifting in Kiev's favor, and we'll spend a moment on the

0:43.0

allegedly imminent deal with Iran. Then we'll spend a few minutes on toxic partisanship and the

0:49.4

frustrating red-blue cheerleading for moral cretons like Ken Paxton and Graham Platinum.

0:55.7

And finally, not worth your time.

0:57.6

Donald Trump, the UFC, Millie Vanilli, the Freedom 250 celebration, and despite all of that,

1:05.1

the continued greatness of America.

1:07.3

I'm joined today by my dispatch colleague Jonah Goldberg and dispatch contributors David French and Mike Nelson.

1:13.5

Let's dive right in.

1:31.9

Mike, I want to start with you and start with some good news for a change.

1:39.0

We have been seeing persistent reports on the Russia-Ukraine war, both in the popular press and also from military analysts, such as your former colleagues at the Institute for the

1:43.9

study of War,

1:45.0

that the war is turning or maybe even has turned, that Ukraine has gained battlefield advantages,

1:53.1

that Ukraine has built momentum, that Russia is increasingly struggling. There was a UK

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