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🗓️ 27 April 2023
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0:00.0 | The |
0:07.0 | The Welcome back to the UFO Rabbit Hole podcast. I'm your host, Kelly Chase. Today, we welcome back Dr. James Madden to the show. |
0:40.5 | As you'll recall, Jim joined us a couple of weeks ago for a discussion about Plato's Cave. |
0:45.9 | We also discussed some of his latest work applying the philosophical concept of the Umbelt to the UFO phenomenon. |
0:52.9 | And I was really excited to see that that episode has become one of the most listened to episodes of the umwelt to the UFO phenomenon. And I was really excited to see that that episode has |
0:55.7 | become one of the most listened to episodes of the podcast because it's definitely one of my |
1:00.6 | favorites. If you haven't listened to that episode yet, I highly recommend that you go back to that |
1:05.9 | one first. Jim's work builds on itself, and it'll be helpful to lay down the foundation with that episode before moving on to this one. |
1:14.6 | In this episode, we'll be moving on to Dr. James Madden's latest work. |
1:19.6 | Over the last few months, in a flurry of articles released through his substack, Jim has laid out a series of arguments as to the nature of the UFO phenomenon that are |
1:29.3 | frankly, mind-blowing. It's not overstating things to say that what Jim has done is to essentially |
1:35.2 | break uphology, and I mean that in the best possible way. Because, in many ways, it's being |
1:42.2 | clear to anyone who's really paying attention that the traditional |
1:45.8 | models and ontologies that have dominated modern uphology have needed to break. We began this |
1:52.0 | podcast talking about what the UFO phenomenon might be, and we did a deep dive into the primary |
1:58.0 | hypotheses, including extraterrestrial, ultra-terrestrial, interdimensional, |
2:03.3 | et cetera. And all of those models are really useful for helping us to push our thinking about |
2:09.1 | what the intelligence behind UFOs may represent. But if we're being really honest with ourselves, |
2:15.7 | we have to admit that none of them really fit. |
2:19.0 | They come close in some ways, fall short in others, and ultimately leave us feeling like we're trying |
2:24.6 | to stretch a full-sized sheet over a queen-sized bed. What we've needed desperately is a model that |
2:31.0 | would collapse all of those ontological categories and integrate them into a larger |
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