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The Welcome back to the UFO Rabbit Hole podcast. I'm your host, Kelly Chase. Today, we're diving into something completely

different. So far on our journey down the rabbit hole, our progress has been linear and logical.

We've taken on both the history and the ontologies of uphology in a methodical way, starting at the

beginning and allowing each new idea to build upon the last.

Where we haven't gotten to yet is the weird world of experiencer narratives. And that's been

intentional. For experiencers, I don't need to spell out how all of these things are related.

And for non-experiencers, that's where the wheels typically fall off.

Even among those who are fully ready to embrace the idea that there is a non-human intelligence

present on this planet, there are many who lose the thread at the point that anyone actually

has a direct encounter with this intelligence. And I'd argue that, in most cases, it's not because

these people aren't open-minded, but rather it's because experiencer narratives are bizarre and often

unintelligible to the point that you're left with nothing solid to hold on to. It sounds crazy,

and so it's all too easy to default to the assumptions about experiencers that

come preloaded in our larger cultural context, that they must be nuts. That's why, over the

course of this podcast, we've been methodically building an understanding of our reality that is both

nuanced and scientifically sound enough to actually support these

experience or narratives before we attempt to weave them into this ridiculously complex tapestry.

With the waking up inside the cave series, we've begun that work in earnest, but we're not there

yet. And yet, today, we're going to go there. As is the experience of many

who begin to pursue a coherent and consistent line of questioning with regard to the UFO topic,

at a certain point, the high strangeness of it all begins to creep in, whether invited or not.

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