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Crazy/Genius

The U.S. and China: A Tale of Two Surveillance States

Crazy/Genius

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Business, Society & Culture, Technology

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

From Beijing to Brooklyn, facial recognition is on the cutting edge of surveillance technology. But does the threat of this tech outweigh its benefits? A look at two communities living under the microscope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:29.0

A quick note before we get started, This podcast episode has been corrected since it was originally published and updated to include comments from Nelson Management in the second half. In Western China, there is a vast region of desert and mountains called Xinjiang.

0:50.0

It covers about a fifth of the country's landmass.

0:53.0

In ancient times, it was a critical intersection on the Silk Road.

0:57.0

Today, it's home to a large population of Chinese Muslims, known Uyghurs.

1:04.0

Uyghurs are a Turkic Muslim people who live in Central Asia.

1:09.8

They have a very rich culture in history. They have been living in their homeland for

1:17.0

hundreds of years.

1:18.9

Omar Kanaut is a Uyghis advocate who was born in this region. He says that while his people are Chinese citizens, they are outsiders.

1:27.0

We are very different. We speak a different language. We have a different religion. We have different culture. We have different religion, we have different culture, we have different traditions.

1:37.0

And China's government sees these differences as a critical threat to national unity.

1:44.7

They want to control or even expel the Uyghurs from their home, especially from the key

1:50.3

city of Koshgar. There the Communist Party has instituted a new kind of

1:56.7

government by surveillance. This is now a police state. There are cameras everywhere, every corner of the city. There are

2:06.6

checkpoints every hundred yards. Every movement of the Uyghurs monitored by most advanced surveillance technologies.

2:16.0

And tell me a little bit about the technology that exists in and around the home.

2:21.0

They put scanners in front of the door of the Uyghurs, so the Chinese authorities

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