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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

The Tudor Dixon Podcast: The Real Story Behind Michelle Obama’s Comments with Stacy Washington

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Daily News, Politics

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Tudor Dixon and Sirius XM's Stacy Washington unpack Michelle Obama’s recent remarks on race, hair, and her time as First Lady. They examine how cultural expectations shape women in public life, what her perspective reveals about today’s political climate, and how the Obama legacy continues to influence conversations about future female leadership.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.5

You are listening to the Tudor Dixon podcast,

0:07.0

and today we have got to go through exactly what is going on with Michelle Obama.

0:12.1

You know what?

0:13.1

Generally, I don't touch what's happening with Michelle Obama.

0:17.0

She is a first lady.

0:18.9

I have great respect for the first ladies of this country.

0:21.9

But when they don't have respect for you and they continuously go out and tell you they are,

0:28.8

they have never had respect for you, it's kind of hard to not address it.

0:32.8

So we thought we would bring in an expert on this issue.

0:36.2

And that is Stacey Washington because she is an expert on all issue, and that is Stacey Washington, because she

0:38.1

is an expert on all things, pop culture, what's happening, current events. She is the host of

0:44.1

Stacey on the right on Sirius XM Patriot Channel. And I thought you would be the best person to

0:49.4

talk about this with because I needed another woman. Well, I am a cisgendered, meaning real

0:54.1

woman. And I'm glad to be here with you, another real needed another woman. Well, I am a cisgendered, meaning real woman. And I'm glad to be

0:55.8

here with you, another real actual biological woman. You know, so I was watching these things

1:01.7

from the perspective of someone who, you know, you wake up in the morning and you're like, oh,

1:06.5

you know, my ankle hurts or my, you know, I have to do this or that that I did do yesterday,

1:10.8

or whatever your thing is, maybe you have some real serious problems, like you have ankle hurts or my, you know, I have to do this or that that I didn't do yesterday,

1:11.7

or whatever your thing is.

2:03.1

Maybe you have some real serious problems, like you have health issues or something going on your family. And it's the first thing that hits your brain in the morning. And so as I was watching some of the clips of her, the first thing I thought was, you wake up in the morning, the former First Lady of the United States. And the first thing you think about is that white people have made you keep your hair straight. And so you can't swim. I'm not sure if she's saying she can't swim. She was saying black people can't swim because of that. And I know that, so first of all, let's just acknowledge the really. We can play it. So people can hear it. So people can know what I'm talking about here. It's so crazy. Because I actually, weirdly enough, I woke up this morning and I was like, I didn't know that we were forcing anyone to do their hair a certain way. It was like the first time I'd heard that. So listen to how she. Unlimited power tutor. I know. I really, I was like,

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