The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Obama vs. Trump on Deportations, Crime & the Immigration Narrative
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🗓️ 2 February 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.3 | Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. |
| 0:07.4 | We are going to talk about law enforcement today. |
| 0:10.3 | I know a lot of you are going, what is going on right now? |
| 0:13.8 | We see all the stuff happening in Minnesota. |
| 0:16.4 | What is the true story behind the deportations and everything that President Trump is doing? |
| 0:22.2 | I decided it would be best to talk to Dr. John Lott about that. |
| 0:26.0 | He's an economist and also a former senior advisor to the Department of Justice and the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. |
| 0:35.6 | Dr. Lott, thank you so much for joining me. |
| 0:37.9 | That's great to talk to you again. Thank you for having me on. Absolutely. So we always talk |
| 0:43.3 | about the fact that people forget Obama was considered the deporter in chief. And he |
| 0:49.1 | received that name from his own side. They called him the deporter in chief. And they're now saying, |
| 0:55.7 | well, Donald Trump is out of control with what he's doing. So I thought I would ask you, |
| 1:01.0 | can we compare their records a little bit? Yeah. You know, unfortunately, there's really only good |
| 1:07.6 | data for a lot of these questions for the last two years of the Obama |
| 1:11.5 | administration, 2015 and 2016. But, you know, it's amazing to me how there's really no comparisons |
| 1:19.4 | that go on in the media. You know, you think, you know, it seems like the standard that they |
| 1:25.0 | want to hold people to is that there's absolutely no mistakes that are ever made. |
| 1:29.6 | And, you know, to me, the thing is, well, what is the rate of mistakes? |
| 1:33.1 | How does it compare to others? |
| 1:34.9 | So, for example, a lot of the media will focus on this report from ProPublica, kind of a left-wing media organization, claiming that 170 Americans have been accidentally |
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