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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast today. I have Jim McLaughlin with me. He is a nationally recognized public opinion expert, strategic consultant, and political strategists.

And his work with as president and partner at McLaughlin and Associates is it has you guys have been doing

great things you worked with the president on his winning campaign but now we're going into

the midterms and we are all wondering what's going to happen you have some insight there Jim

thank you for joining me oh the pleasure is all mine tutor mine, Tudor. So tell us what you think.

I will say in Michigan, you asked me before we on what the feeling is here in Michigan.

I think, you know, if you're looking at our seats, we have some seats that one of them, one of our

congressional seats, Tom Barrett, he won in 24. So he's a new congressman.

We know that he's a target. He's done great things, I will say. He's done some really

amazing work. He brought a couple back from Mexico that was pretty much in prison and not coming

home. So he's done some really good things, but I think he's a target.

I know John James is running for governor. His seat is, we don't have a candidate there. That's a

target. We talk about redistricting. We were redistricted a few years ago. Even Bill Heisinga, his

congressional district is becoming bluer because of the redistricted, redistricted map.

So what are you seeing for the midterms?

Because here we're a little nervous.

Yeah.

And look, I think one of our biggest opponents coming up into the midterms is quite honestly complacency. We can't become complacent.

So you said this happened in 2018, and I totally agree with you. I will say when you talk about

complacency, we felt, I think, you can correct me if I'm wrong, we felt in 2016, oh my gosh,

we ran away with it. People

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