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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast.

Today is going to be a good episode because we are going to learn about men.

For men out there, we're listening, we're learning about you.

This is for men too, I think, because men, you're going to hear that I guess what

you're doing is good and it's okay because we have an expert. We've got Tom Sturgis here with us and

he just is releasing his new book, Men Explained finally. Tom, thanks for joining me.

Thank you so, so much for having me. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this, one of my favorite

topics. I mean, you go into great detail, and it's all awesome because you are explaining

men in such a simple way, but I think in a way that we as women really need to hear because we

expect so much

different behavior from you than you are giving us. And now we know. We can read this and

understand. I've tried to decode this like a Rosetta Stone so that you can go, oh, wait a

second. He's a 14-year-old boy. And understand that that is our

basic operating system. My view of this is that we're 14-year-olds and we hop into the seat

and we're pulling levers and making our eyes blank and telling jokes, but a 14-year-old is

running everything.

My mom used to constantly say that men suffered from Peter Pan syndrome, so that makes a lot

of sense.

Actually, as I'm reading through this, it makes a lot of sense to me, but I mentioned to

you that I have four girls.

I have two 12-year-olds,

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