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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. Today should be a very interesting conversation as

we dig deep into the division between our nation's political parties. I'm joined by a man

who knows a little bit about impeachment. Julian Epstein was the chief counsel to the

House Judiciary Committee, fighting Bill Clinton's impeachment. Now we're two impeachment,

two impeachment and one impeachment inquiry later. Some of us are asking if this justice

system is becoming a political weapon and if so, where does that lead? Julian Epstein,

thank you so much for joining me. Tudor, thanks for having me on the podcast and it's

a delight to meet you as I was just saying a minute ago, I watched you on the campaign

trail last year and I was very impressed with a lot of what you said and I actually thought

you were going to be one of the upset candidates that that was going to win and the last cycle.

I appreciate that. But I enjoyed watching you very much and I was very impressed by your

candidacy. Thank you. I appreciate that. Well, you've been in this political world a lot

longer than I have. I obviously lived through watching the Bill Clinton impeachment from

the outside and you know, I'm probably at that point, I think in college thinking, what

is this all mean? I'm at that point, I think just a few years younger than Monica Lewinsky

and I don't think I could see it then for what I see it as now. But I mean in the midst

of what I look at back then, gosh, I just saw John Fetterman tweet something that I would

think would get most people impeached back in the 90s now, you know, like the things have

changed. Let's just say that. Things have really changed. But we also see, we had two

impeachments of President Trump. And now we have an impeachment inquiry into President

Biden. Is that going to be the new normal on how much does that take away from our power

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