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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast on this Good Friday.

We have such a special guest here with us today on this Holy Week.

And I say that because we get to travel through a tragedy, really a life tragedy that one of the pastors that my church went through. And one of

the great things I think about my church is that every so often we have a video about one of

the families at church and something that they've lived through, something that God has taken

them through and brought them out stronger and kept them strong throughout, something really difficult.

And I think that's a wonderful thing to experience in church because really that's what church is

all about. It's not a place for the healthy people. It's not a place for people who are perfect on

their own because we're not. It's a place for people to come together and realize that we need God above all other things,

that God is there for us and will take us through the most difficult times.

And I think this story, my guest today, his name is Brad Grossman.

He's one of the campus pastors at my church.

His story is so powerful in this Holy Week because for me, I always feel like as we go through

this week, there's this heaviness. We understand the seriousness of our sin, of our pain,

of all the hard things that we do. And then at the end, we have this

celebration that we have a Savior, that Jesus rises and he rises again and he saves

our lives and we have eternity because of him and because of our belief in him. But this week

at church, our pastor was talking about Holy Week, and he was talking about

that day that Jesus was betrayed and that he says to the disciples when he returns, I have to

leave you because I have to be able to send the Spirit to be with you. the spirit can go with you all, and you have to

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