Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the Tudor Dixon podcast part of the Clay Travers and Buck Sexton podcast network.

Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. I'm Tudor Dixon and it is great to have you tuning in. Today we are going to discuss a really tough subject with a dad who has been through the

unimaginable pain of losing a child at the home of a neighbor whose father failed to secure his guns.

Kristen and Mike Song lost their 15 year old son Ethan in 2018 and today they're working on legislation. They believe will save young lives.

Together, both he and his wife created the Ethan Miller song foundation to honor Ethan's life and

pursue safe storage

legislation to protect other children from a similar tragedy. This may be a conversation that many of my listeners have strong and

differing opinions about, but we think it's very important to have the dialogue. Mike, thank you so much for joining me today and

let me start by saying I am so sorry for your loss. We talked a little bit about this before we started recording as a mom.

I really I can't imagine what you're going through and I think it's so important for us to talk about this because many of

people who are listening have never been through this and it is something that we all have to be aware of as parents.

Thank you for for agreeing to come on. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for those those kind of words and it is a devastating experience and as every parent could,

you know, try to, you know, imagine one day your your child does not come home from a friend's house and it's life is forever changed.

But I appreciate being here and a chance to talk about this really important topic.

It's something that right now I think so many people are on one side or the other on so many of these issues and I think you're probably one of those people that's like,

hey, I'm just on the side of a dad who wants to exactly what you said, see my child come home. If you can tell us a little bit about Ethan and just your experience and what led you to based on your story,

because I don't think a lot of people know your stories. If you can just explain what happened and what led you to come out and be a fighter because we also talked about that.

I mean, you could have made another choice to not talk about it, but you're out there every day. Yeah, you know, we, we had a really great. Ethan was a fantastic kid.

We would be I'm a sports person. I went fishing with him hiking, biking, camping. We were really an outdoors type family.

So we spent a lot of time together as as a family of five. And we essentially tried to instill in him a lot of common sense about safety.

And so we a lot of folks say, well, you should have just talked to him about gun safety. I talked to my son quite a bit about it.

I'm a musician and I was a big fan of the band Chicago. So I distinctly remember on four or five occasions telling all three of my kids, hey, listen,

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