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So I recently read your op ed on DEI. First of all, I think a lot of people hear about this and they think okay DEI is associated with something that I don't like but they don't fully understand what it's doing.

And it's different whether it's in the lower schools or the higher ed.

So can you go through a little bit about DEI so our audience totally understands it.

Yeah, so in whether it's K through 12 schools or it's say public universities, the DEI bureaucracy serves the same purpose.

It's to take administrative power, bring in left-wing ideologies and then use the authority of the leadership of those institutions to impose that ideology on students, faculty, administrative staff.

And so if you look at these institutions, you have the administrative and then say the curricular.

In K through 12, they have obviously control over the curriculum, what schools teach kids.

But the DEI component is really important because that's where all the administrative decisions are made.

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