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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.

Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?

Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.

From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.

What difference at this point does it make?

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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast.

I have the host of the Ruben Report with me here today, Dave Rubin.

And Dave, I'm so glad that you're on because we were just talking before we got on about how heavy things feel right now.

And I saw your tribute to Charlie Kirk in the New York Post.

And I wanted to say that was beautiful,

very well done.

Well, thanks, and it's good to see you, Tudor.

You know, we're all in this weird spot because if you do something like we do for a living,

so you talk about politics or culture or whatever, and you happen to be on the, let's say on the right, you know, we're all in the same world.

We all kind of know each other one way or another,

you know, whether we're doing it just through the cameras

like you and I are doing now, or doing events like I used to do

with Charlie at colleges all the time or whatever.

And then there's this weird moment where suddenly you feel,

wow, this guy that I know, my friend

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