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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast.

I'm Tudor Dixon and I'm so happy to have you joining me. My

guest today is a genius when it comes to dissecting the message and helping people

understand what opportunities are available to them and how those same opportunities may be threatened by

progressive ideology.

When we first met, I had one of those moments where I thought, this guy knows so many things.

I just want to dissect his brain and learn everything I can and so that's what I want to do today

And since then you probably have all gotten to know him a little bit. Vavak Ramaswami has announced his run for President of the United States and you've

likely had the pleasure of hearing some of the stories of his ideas but today we're going to dig deep into those ideas.

Vivake is the author of two books, Woke Inc, inside Corporate America's Social Justice

Scam, and Nation of Victims, Identity Politics, The Death of Mer merit, and the path back to excellence.

Very controversial topics right now.

The progressive media is attacking conservatives using the word woke, claiming they can't define

it, and since we have the nation's expert right here

I want him to help us define it. Republican presidential candidate Vivake

Ramaswami Vivake, Vavake, welcome to the podcast.

It's good to talk to you tonight to you, too flattering of an introduction, but thank you for that, I appreciate it.

Well, no, it's really true because when I was running for Governor, I met you and you were talking to me about messaging and how to talk about these things and they really are hard to talk about and so you know that the

Progressive media attacks anybody that talks about woke but you've looked at it from a different

angle and so I want your perspective especially as someone who is a part of the minority

community but oftentimes folks that are in the minority community that are Indian are not

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