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A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein

The Tucker Carlson Problem (with Naomi Klein)

A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein

Matt Bernstein

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Tucker Carlson has emerged as one of the most influential voices opposing the U.S. relationship to Israel. He’s also anti-Trump. So is he your friend now? Today, the inimitable Naomi KIein makes her A Bit Fruity debut to explain the Right’s burgeoning realignment, why the Republican successor to Trump could be so much scarier (sorry), and how an inept Liberal establishment made the rise of an antisemitic nationalist movement inevitable. And, of course, what we can do. Listen to bonus episodes on Patreon! Thanks to today’s sponsors! Sleep and dream well! Visit https://helixsleep.com/fruity to take advantage of their Memorial Day Sale exclusive partner offer — that’s 27% off sitewide. Get 15% off a cuter, more sustainable way to clean at https://www.blueland.com/fruity.  Naomi is currently platformless, but please preorder her forthcoming book, End Times Fascism. It will be brilliant. Also, read Doppelganger. Find me on Instagram. Find A Bit Fruity on Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The fascist job is to take that anger, acknowledge it, and redirect it, right?

0:05.4

Redirect it at the scapegoats and at the left.

0:09.9

That's why Tucker's never going to be our friend.

0:12.5

But I think that this is the vision that he represents, and it's a really bleak vision.

0:17.9

It's a really grim vision.

0:19.7

And, you know, I think people can make short-term

0:21.8

alliances that will end up backfiring on them very, very badly.

0:31.0

Hello, hello, and welcome back to A BitFrudy. I'm Matt Bernstein. I'm so happy that you're here.

0:37.4

I was at a talk the other night

0:39.2

about Palestine and the art world when during the q and a section someone asked the panelists what

0:45.9

they thought about tucker carlson most people in the room nervously laughed and shifted in their

0:51.7

chairs tucker carlson who when I started this podcast three years ago,

0:56.5

was on Fox News complaining about how the green M&M is no longer sexy. Simpler times, right? Take me back.

1:04.6

I guess. I don't know. I never thought I'd yearn for that time. Anyway, the green M&M, you will notice,

1:10.1

is no longer wearing sexy boots.

1:12.2

Now she's wearing sensible sneakers. Leading women do not wear sexy boots. Leading women wear

1:17.6

frumpy shoes, the frumpier the better. That's the rule. The other big change is that the brown

1:22.5

Eminem has, quote, transitioned from high stilettos to lower block heels.

1:29.2

Also less sexy.

1:30.4

That's progress.

1:34.3

M&Ms will not be satisfied until every last cartoon character is deeply unappealing and totally androgynous.

1:38.1

Until the moment you wouldn't want to have a drink with any one of them.

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