The Tucker Carlson Problem (with Naomi Klein)
A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein
Matt Bernstein
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🗓️ 15 May 2026
⏱️ 96 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The fascist job is to take that anger, acknowledge it, and redirect it, right? |
| 0:05.4 | Redirect it at the scapegoats and at the left. |
| 0:09.9 | That's why Tucker's never going to be our friend. |
| 0:12.5 | But I think that this is the vision that he represents, and it's a really bleak vision. |
| 0:17.9 | It's a really grim vision. |
| 0:19.7 | And, you know, I think people can make short-term |
| 0:21.8 | alliances that will end up backfiring on them very, very badly. |
| 0:31.0 | Hello, hello, and welcome back to A BitFrudy. I'm Matt Bernstein. I'm so happy that you're here. |
| 0:37.4 | I was at a talk the other night |
| 0:39.2 | about Palestine and the art world when during the q and a section someone asked the panelists what |
| 0:45.9 | they thought about tucker carlson most people in the room nervously laughed and shifted in their |
| 0:51.7 | chairs tucker carlson who when I started this podcast three years ago, |
| 0:56.5 | was on Fox News complaining about how the green M&M is no longer sexy. Simpler times, right? Take me back. |
| 1:04.6 | I guess. I don't know. I never thought I'd yearn for that time. Anyway, the green M&M, you will notice, |
| 1:10.1 | is no longer wearing sexy boots. |
| 1:12.2 | Now she's wearing sensible sneakers. Leading women do not wear sexy boots. Leading women wear |
| 1:17.6 | frumpy shoes, the frumpier the better. That's the rule. The other big change is that the brown |
| 1:22.5 | Eminem has, quote, transitioned from high stilettos to lower block heels. |
| 1:29.2 | Also less sexy. |
| 1:30.4 | That's progress. |
| 1:34.3 | M&Ms will not be satisfied until every last cartoon character is deeply unappealing and totally androgynous. |
| 1:38.1 | Until the moment you wouldn't want to have a drink with any one of them. |
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