Chloe Cole was 12 years old when she decided she was transgender. A year later, at 13, she went on

puberty blockers and testosterone. At 15, she had major surgery, getting a double mastectomy.

Only a year later, at 16, she realized she had made a horrible mistake. Now, she's 18, she's

de-transitioned, and she's speaking out, trying to protect children from being put through what

she went through. And she joins me on this episode to discuss her personal journey. And why adults

are pushing young people to transition? Stay tuned for this can't miss interview with Chloe Cole.

Chloe, it's an honor to have you on the show. I just wanted to tell you up front that I really

respect what you're doing and just trying to bring awareness. I know that it is scary. It's

hard to stand up against the mob, so just want to thank you for your courage in doing so.

And thank you for having me, Lisa. What's that been like to stand up against the mob with this?

I never really expected to be doing anything like this in my life. I mean, throughout most of my

childhood and teenhood, I was like a really shy kid and I was kind of like on the artistic side.

So I mostly just like kept myself and I thought that I would pursue, I would pursue career in something

artistic related, which I probably willed on the road. I never thought that I would ever be doing

something like public facing or public speaking. It's been quite the adjustment over the past year,

but I found that I've actually really enjoyed doing it. I get a lot more support than I do

backlash and that's really nice, but I get my fair share of hate just for talking about my experience

having conditioned as a kid and what it's been like going through that as a kid and coming back

from it. Well, I'm glad to hear you're getting more support than hate that's comforting. I'm glad

to hear that. You know, before we get into your story specifically, I wanted to ask you,

why do you think there is such a push right now to encourage young people to transition?

The narrative right now is that the younger you start transition, the better because

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