I'm Ben Nadefaffrey, host of the history show The Last Archive, and I want to tell you about a new series we're running in our feed.

It's called The Dead Line. Six essays written and read by Jill Lepore,

the New Yorker writer, American historian, and founding host of our show.

These are incredible essays on everything from the history of Cryogenics to the Silicon Valley

Gospel of Disruption.

And at the end of each essay, I interview Jill about her craft as a writer.

You can listen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts.

I am so excited about this episode's guest.

It is someone who I have been trying to get on the show and so honored that we got his

time and that he's on this show.

It is Senator JD Vance from Ohio.

I've been wanting to have him on.

One, I just find him very smart.

He's a brilliant guy and he's an interesting guy but he just has such a unique

background as well i mean look he's a millennial at 39 years old he served in the marine

corps he has also just experienced two entirely different worlds that most people don't experience.

You know, he grew up in an Appalachian hometown and middletown Ohio where, you know, drug addiction was the norm, you know, grew up in an impoverished

neighborhood, but then, you know, went on to get his law degree for meale, become a venture capitalist,

and now a United States senator.

I mean, how many people have lived in those two extremes?

How has that shaped his belief system and his policy viewpoints.

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