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The Truth with Lisa Boothe

The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Inside Minnesota’s Billion-Dollar Fraud Scandal with Dustin Grage

The Truth with Lisa Boothe

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary, News

4.83.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

This episode takes a deep dive into Minnesota’s massive fraud scandal, involving billions of dollars siphoned from state programs. Dustin Grage joins Lisa to examine how oversight failures under the Tim Walz administration allowed the scheme to grow, while also exploring the cultural and political factors at play within the Somali community.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.7

Welcome to The Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get to the heart of the issues that matter to you.

0:09.8

Today, we're diving deep in a Minnesota's billion-dollar fraud scandal.

0:13.7

We're talking ghost meals, sham therapies, and kickbacks that allegedly funneled taxpayer cash to terrorists,

0:21.7

all on Tim Walz's watch with state inaction fueled by fears of racism

0:27.1

due to the Somali community, which is where this is all tied to.

0:32.4

So joining me to discuss it all and to dig into it all and to expose it all is Dustin Graz.

0:38.0

He's a Minnesota-based GOP strategist.

0:40.1

He's also a town hall columnist, and he's a relentless Walls critic who has been sounding

0:45.2

the alarm on this mess from day one.

0:48.1

So we'll dig into all of it with Dustin Grange.

0:50.5

Stay tuned.

0:56.2

Well, Dustin, it's great to have you on this show.

0:59.3

You know, we're joking before we got started that Tim Walz is keeping you busy here.

1:03.2

Yes, yes, he has been.

1:05.0

Take us off, walk us through.

1:07.4

There's this big fraud scandal that hit the state of Minnesota and the scale is extremely

1:14.4

large. I mean, we're talking about up to a billion dollars. One of the biggest fraud scandals

1:18.9

we've seen in quite some time. And it all unfolded under the Tim Walls administration,

1:24.8

not doing anything about it. So walk us through sort of big picture.

1:28.8

What are you hearing in the state?

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