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The Truth with Lisa Boothe

The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Gordon Chang: How Iran & Venezuela’s Collapse Hurts China—and What It Means for Taiwan

The Truth with Lisa Boothe

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News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.73.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

What do the fall of Venezuela’s Maduro regime and the war with Iran mean for China? On this episode of The Truth with Lisa Boothe, Lisa is joined by China expert and bestselling author Gordon Chang to break down the geopolitical ripple effects of Operation Epic Fury and President Trump’s foreign policy moves.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.0

Welcome to The Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get to the heart of the issues that it matter to you.

0:08.6

Today we're talking China with Gordon Chang. He is the author of multiple books on China.

0:14.0

But with Maduro's removal and Iran's leadership and military decimated in Operation Epic Fury, how does this all impact China?

0:23.7

We know that China uses countries like Venezuela and Iran as proxies.

0:29.0

So what's the impact on China?

0:31.5

Also, Iran and Venezuela have both been armed with Chinese radar and air defense systems

0:36.2

that have proven essentially useless

0:39.9

against the United States and Israeli attacks. So does that make China more likely or less

0:45.0

likely to try to take Taiwan? Also, China has been dependent on crude from Venezuela and Iran

0:52.8

at discounted prices because of the sanctions, how does that impact

0:56.6

China's economy? We're going to dig into all this, you know, taking on sort of a different

1:01.5

angle to the Venezuela and Iran situations from the prism of China. Stay tuned for Gordon Chang.

1:15.6

Well, Gordon, it's always great to have you on the show. Appreciate you making time for us.

1:17.6

So thank you so much.

1:18.6

Well, thank you, Lisa.

1:20.6

I really appreciate it.

1:21.6

Oh, thank you.

1:22.6

So we've seen a lot of development throughout the world.

1:26.6

President Trump's been very active.

1:29.3

We've seen, since we've lost, had you on the show,

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