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Welcome to The Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get to the heart of the issues that matter to you.

Today, I'm joined by Chris Rufo, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

He's done some really interesting reporting in this city journal, and we're going to dig into it.

He is exposing some major woke waste in California, including a $114 million wildlife overpass for mountain lions and butterflies.

That's overdue and overbudget as expected in a state like California, particularly under Gavin Newsom.

Plus, we'll talk about San Francisco's revival of a $120 million program

that diverted police funds, police funds, into questionable DEI initiatives,

now potentially facing legal risks as well.

We're going to break down the facts, follow the money,

and explore the patterns under

Gavin Newsom, his patterns of failure. And also, what does it mean for 2008 in his presidential

ambitions? Stay tuned for a conversation about Wilk Waste with Chris Rufo.

Well, Chris Rufo, it's great to have you back on the show.

You always do such great reporting.

So appreciate you making the time.

It's great to be with you.

We've heard a lot about fraud, particularly in Minnesota, now California as well.

You've done some original reporting that we're

going to get into in just a moment. But why do you think all of this fraud gets overlooked so

frequently? Well, there are two reasons why the fraud gets overlooked. The first reason is pretty

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